About Benjanun Sriduangkaew.
- Written 4/11/2024
- Updated 4/20/2024
Foreword: Why am I writing this?
Benjanun Sriduangkaew (henceforth shortened to BS, or Bee), is at the center of intra-community fights and the link through which I came to be harassed and involved in the situation, and the people that follow, protect, and brigade together, has a long and storied history of manipulation, lying, serial harassment, blackmail and abuse. She often uses DARVO to accuse victims of the very things sheâs doing to them, including accusing victims of using DARVO tactics themselves1.
Iâve come to notice, after trying to understand where this brigade of bad faith actors coming to berate me and my plugin came from, that her particular peoples express their bigotry against other progressives in social justice language.
Summary
Benjanun (@benjanun_s) and her followers are ideologically Baeddels2 (which includes the idea that trans men oppress women and that violence against trans men from trans women is âpunching upâ) and their tactics follow this playbook to a tee, and once you recognize it, you canât unsee it.
This short video will give you way more context than anything I can write here. Recommended watching in any case.
In contrast to their behavior, it is my opinion that nobody is an âacceptable targetâ of harassment or abuse.
The most powerful thing to do is block, ignore, and pass this on. Arguing with them is only going to fuel them- they will take a typo, a miswording, or just plainly something out of context they can make up about you and harass you as their target of the day. Pretty standard Internet advice: donât feed the trolls.
Context, my involvement
If youâre not interested in how I got involved, you can skip this whole section.
On April 8th, 2024, @autotheurgy tagged me in a thread saying that my add-on (Soupcan) is being manipulated because @benjanun_s was marked as red. (Screenshot)
I had pretty much (only in passing) never heard or interacted with her before. I gave her the benefit of the doubt when a Soupcan user expressed disapproval with her mark, and removed it, at one point in the past.
My first response to the accusation that my platform was being manipulated or gamed was to check the reports on this user, to check for fake reports / unverifiable claims, botting, hacking, and so on. There were a few reports that I saw, with 4 different tweet examples linked. It appeared that these were genuine grievances. So, I responded by saying they were not gamed, and asking what made them illegitimate. (Screenshot)
Callistaâs response was to block me, and I called her out on it. (Screenshot) I was snarky, sure. Someone had just told me something I built was effectively trash and didnât want to explain why. But my reaction was blown way out of proportion to the point of victim blaming3.
After this point, I started to receive a fair amount of backlash and abuse. You can decide for yourself whether this is a measured response, or dogpiling/bad faith criticism. Hereâs a selection:
- âur fuckin trash lmaoâ - @baedellyy (link)
- âGood faith, entirely honest. Fuck you.â - @EmRoseDeLeon (link)
- âBeth hun. [..] Good luck with healing. May you find clarity. [âŚ] Girl what the fuck actually??? How did you think this wouldnt get flak?â - DM
- âGirl how are you being this obtuse? [âŚ] you think youâre being abused right now? Get some perspectiveâ - @EllisPritchard2 (link)
- âItâs crazy you have time on your break to respond [âŚ] yet you havenât responded to [âŚ] debunkingâ - @estralena (link)
- âFuck me that extension is hot garbageâ - @pacifistycuffs (link)
- âNot responding [âŚ] totally doesnât come across as JAQâing offâ - @StrategiaSE (link)
- âI told her how shit of an idea this was [âŚ]â - @autotheurgy (link)
- âwhy donât you just go work for anduril or something it feels like youâd be a good fitâ - @shipsposting (link)
- âtrying to performatively wash your hands of how this app is being used in real time is horrifying. Youâre not in the community with trans fems, clearly.â - @SomniumImmanis (link)
- âyour little tool participates in transmisogyny [âŚ] good job!â - @RoboTranssexual (link)
- âDid you bother to check the context [âŚ] or did you just go [âŚ] guess this person deserves to die?â - @SomniumImmanis (link)
- âyou built the birthday botnet [âŚ] go cry me a fucking riverâ - @shipsposting (link)
- âdo your fuckin job or shut your garbage down and walk awayâ - @SomniumImmanis (link)
- âplease get rid of your brigading tool. just obliterate it. [âŚ] your tool is poisonâ - @rozietoez (link)
- âSoft boy g*mergate tool.â - @benjanun_s (link)
- âthis quisling thinks the obviously spurious reports for her community harassment tool are actually legit [âŚ] apparently (X) is of a much higher severity than (Y). fuck you Beth.â - @shipsposting (link)
- âjust granting endless credulity to nonsense from transmisogynistic bad faith actorsâ - @rozietoez (link)
(You can see more here, and on Twitter.)
Keep in mind that this was all arose out of my not unquestioningly reversing a red mark on Soupcan. Which, had I decided to go in and make changes only because people pressured me into doing so, that ironically would be platform manipulation.
About Soupcan
Soupcan is a browser extension that highlights users that have been reported for transphobia. Users make reports and give reasoning, typically linking a tweet as an example, or multiple tweets. Reports are weighted based on how much trust a user has built up in the system, which is why a bunch of new accounts who signed up on April 8th were not able to successfully appeal Benjanunâs label. The database updates generally every 24h. Red marks are frequently appealed due to not enough evidence or mistakes being made. From experience, at least 95% of the red marks that I see are deserved. Most reports are approved automatically and are not vetted by moderators, because there are thousands of reports and we are all volunteers.
Soupcan, above all, is community based. This will never be perfect. There are guidelines to ensure people are on the same page. But the alternative to this is to designate a transphobia âjudgeâ, which IMO, is worse. The tool then just becomes a megaphone for that one personâs opinions, rather than something that represents the community overall.
It is a tool to help people curate their feed on Twitter, not a tool to harass or brigade people. In the entire time Iâve seen people using Soupcan, I have not once seen anyone use Soupcan to attack someone. If you read through this whole report, you can add a Soupcan emoji to your tweet so I know you did. Just as Wikipedia is not a source, but it can provide sources as references, Soupcan collates reports, which people can use to make up their minds. Calling a red mark enabling âsocial murderâ4 is wildly exaggerated in service of protecting Benjanunâs image.
As you can see from above, the mark against BS was framed as a personal failure on my part, rather than the system working as intended, albeit in a way they disagreed with. That said, I have planned many improvements to it and still take constructive feedback on board.
You can read more about it and how it works on the website, here.
Who is Benjanun Sriduangkaew (BS)?
For context -
- She is a cis5 lesbian6 Thai-Chinese science fiction / fantasy (SFF) writer7.
- She has been known under the aliases Winterfox89, Requires Only That You Hate (ROTYH)/Requires Hate (RH)891011, acrackedmoon12911, pyrofennec1213911, Valse de Lune911, Lesifoere149, and Maria Ying15 (as a joint pseudonum with Devi Lacroix.)
- âBenjanun Sriduangkaewâ is likely another constructed identity.1214
- She was reported to be a multi-millionaire heiress of a hotel empire, based on a supposed dox of her real name.141617
- Since at least 200918, she has been infamous for:
- castigating any dissenters with accusations of bigotry19
- directing threats of rape and assault at various people, particularly women, especially queer women and women of color9
- shutting down discussing by directing personal attacks, harassing commenters who liked books she didnât, making racist comments to various minority members. Her hatred lead to the death of the community dedicated to reading and discussing the works of authors of color9
- drive one woman to attempt suicide20, which some of her fans mocked
- harassed a rape victim for at least six months in 20139
- decade-long history of spewing violent, homophobic, transphobic, racist and sexist hate speech under sockpuppet accounts21
- showing no intent to change22.
- She issued two apologies in 2014.2324
- BSâs racist, sexist, classist behavior up until that point has been compiled in multiple places, from multiple victims and multiple reporters.2512
- Many people have come forward as victims of her actions or to corroborate BSâs pattern of harassment.1226827282529303122 The breadth of this and time periods clearly show that this is not a âco-ordinated attackâ on BS.
Tropes and patterns
âBirthday boyâ
Birthday boy is obstensibly a meme about someone provoking someone else and then acting too harmless to be taken seriously22; a crybully for transmisogyny32.
They have said33 itâs a reference to this tweet which describes a â5â8 guy whoâd taunt every jacked, 6â3 bro he men until theyâd pull their fist back to beat him up, whereupon [he] would go âheyheyheyyy câmaahn Iâm a little guy, Iâm just a little guyy, no, itâs also my birthday, Iâm a little birthday boyyâ and it somehow always workedâ and has stuck as a pejorative for a kind of trans man they are against. The term has been around since at least August 202334. Bee herself admits that itâs used âas mean wordsâ (example 3) comparing it to âassholeâ, except âassholeâ isnât tied heavily to a minority group.
BS (and friends) have made many snide remarks about how âbirthday boyâ cannot be harmful, because itâs merely a funny little joke.
- Example 1 âbirthday boy got this person to cry-type [âŚ] WAH WAH WAHâ
- Example 2 âthat deadliest of slurs, a birthday boy.â
- Example 3 âwhen people use mean words like âassholesâ and âbirthday boyâ (wow scary slur! totally a real slur!)â
- Example 4 âtheir mod team agrees that âbirthday boyâ is a slurâ
- Example 5 ââbirthday boyâ is white supremacist apparentlyâ
- Example 6 âthe deadly slur⌠birthday boy.â
- Example 7 âBirthday boy is a meme [âŚ] the idea of âbirthday boyâ being a slur is pretty laughable.â
This behavior isnât new. 10 years ago, when told âItâs a personal insult to call the author a âstupid fuckââ, her response was âoh no, not personal insults to persons not present. what horror, paging Internet Nannies.â as well as âhow do you cope with the internet or real lifeâ.35
This is classic dog-whistle behavior of gaslighting victims into believing theyâre overreacting, but itâs clear from her usage, and how her followers understand her usage, that this label is used to deride and other, putting them into a group of people who are immediately bad faith misogynists- anyone who is a man, and thus an acceptable target due to their âinherent privilegeâ (example) including of trans masc / trans men (intersectionality has left the chat.)
Despite the surface reading of âbirthday boyâ to mean a particular type of behavior, itâs usage shows that it paints a broad brush over communities of people, in usages such as âbday boy centralâ, âbirthday brigadeâ, or âbirthday twitterâ
Examples of using variants of âbirthday boyâ as a reference to a broad group of people, and prejudicial usages:
- Example 1 âBday boy central I fearâ
- Example 2 âBirthday brigade out in full forceâ
- Example 3 âThe birthday brigade had to switch to vanilla misogyny for a pace changeâ
- Example 4 âThe birthday freaks are pretty much deluded / sounds like a birthday boy problem to meâ
- Example 5 âI happily have moral high ground over this pathetic birthday pigâ
- Example 6 âAverage birthday freak.â
- Example 7 âthis accurate summarizes the birthday pigsâ
- Example 8 âthat accountâs a birthday pig, so / Naturallyâ
- Example 9 âthat birthday maggotâ
- Example 10 âbirthday twitterâ
- and more, but I got bored finding examples, given that this was just the last month
Itâs also just used as a general pejorative (ex. 1 and ex. 2.)
Her, and many of her followers, reduce intersectionality (in this case, where experiences that cis men and trans men have differ) to âmisandry doesnât existâ to justify their hatred.
Usage of anti-trans masc pejoratives / slurs
These examples are from people in the community and not from BS herself. They are included here to show the kind of transphobia that exists where she goes. She is not responsible for what other people say.
âZippertitsâ
A pejorative that transphobes use to describe trans men, in reference to top surgery scars; a graphic description of post-surgical scarring used to evoke mutilation and disgust. Examples of (random) transphobes using this include:
and endorsement by BS, which was liked and apparently subsequently removed (as she is known to do when caught out):
Other cases of transphobia
- âXX behaviorâ40 - âmaking the [r/egg_irl] bot use [assumes viewer is X content warning] has to be the most XX behavior iâve ever seenâ
Intersexism/interphobia, enby/non-binaryphobia, Baeddelism
For a primer on Baeddelism, please read this in depth retrospective2.
- Baeddel culture is about centering transfems.
- Baedellism takes the form of trans-inclusive radical feminism where trans men are hated as much if not more than cis men
- AFAB/AMAN and TME/TMA terminology is used in these circles to further divide these communities away from the intersectionality of queerness and towards the ideology of man bad woman good
- Core beliefs include: trans men have male privilege, are not oppressed, oppress women, violence on trans men from trans women is âpunching upâ, trans men are inherently violent.
- Nonbinary and intersex people are typically overlooked or erased by Baedellism, if not actively rejected.
BSâ followers will generally not call themselves Baeddels, except ironically41, to distance themselves from the term. However, actions speak louder than words, and the actual term doesnât matterâjust the fact that there are myriad parallels.
Examples of these beliefs in action from BSâ followers:
- (in regards to gendering a non-binary person) âI think what they call themselves is less important than how they relate to patriarchyâ42
- (@Sinister_Sophia classifies this as âdefending a tweet questioning what is a non-binary about a reconstruction of masculinity with âthey/themâ pronounsâ43)
- Meme that says âsilenced moids disposal facilityâ with blood on a womans hands sent to @ixxypup assuming they identified as a man44
- Erasure of intersex people by @baeddelish45
- Telling a self-described âtransfem/transmasc multigender intersex personâ that they are not transfem, because they are intersex46
- Usage, explanation, and defense of âTMEâ474849
- Airing a grievance about trans mascsâ ability to use âwhite woman tearsâ and have male privilege50
Nature of argumentation
BS and mutuals attack people using social justice language as a weapon, typically with accusations of racism or transmisogyny51. A common thread is a complete and utter lack of good faith, time and time again they will excuse heinous behavior and bring the wrath of their followers down on anyone who pushes back. Itâs clear that they care primarily about optics because they talk about âsocial murderâ - i.e., the battering of someoneâs reputation as a terrible thing to do (452) yet have no problem with spreading Ship of Theseus misrepresentations of their enemyâs behavior in order to appear to have the moral high ground, hoping that nobody will look into it too much and see for themselves. Ask for evidence. Ask why a screenshot is conveniently cropped right before what they are saying is heinous. BS has said that their opponents are trained manipulators53 and yet this is the behavior they engage in all too often.
Examples of accusations of bigotry
- Example 1a / Example 1b - âMangling my name [is] disgustingly racist, especially when youâre this whiteâ / âcalling me Benji [is intentionally racist, masculinizing and referring to me with the name youâd give a dog] and [they] have a long colonialist historyâ
- Example 2 - âcaping for a white person because [theyâre a] fellow misogynistâ
- Example 3 - â[youâre] blaming women for the actions of an abusive patriarch wannabe. [you enjoy] being a misogynistâ
Examples of context collapse
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Example 1. BS says â[here are] Bethâs examples of hateful behavior that came her wayâ54 showing fairly tame examples from the list, only. She skips over âguess this person deserves to dieâ, âcry me a fucking riverâ, âdo your fuckin jobâ, âyour tool is poisonâ, âfuck youâ, etc. She copied the text around it, and removed what was highlighted in pink.
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No, those examples she presented are not in and of themselves the worst harassment. Itâs the collection as a whole that is the harassment, and she knows this.
Ship of Theseus arguments
They repeat things over and over until it becomes âtrueâ, and when other people question where theyâre getting that information from, or what the evidence is, they often just deflect or block (example).
For example, they will call @XarifIno a rape apologist55. When asked for proof, they say that @XarifoIno just responded âlolâ to a person talking about a guy who sexually assaulted and drugged her56. When linked to what was actually said, it is @agnesmdei saying that 99% of the trans men she has met have been violently transmisogynistic. @XarifIno responded, âIdk maybe get off of 4chan then (shrug)â57. This is painted as dismissing the serious of being sexually assaulted, rather than making a comment about @agnesmdeiâs generalization of trans men based on who she has met. When this is pointed out, they stick to saying that this equates to dismissing someoneâs sexual assault58.
For example, they have accused this report (the one youâre reading) of being âso worried about anti white racismâ59, âwe truly needed you to call out that and the âanti-white racismâ out here youâre a lifesaverâ60 and insinuating61 that that is the primary or any conclusion in this report- simply on BSâ say so62. They say63 that this report is sourced from Kiwifarms, a known hate site, again, on BSâ say so64.
They have accused me of âplatforming racist lies uncriticallyâ and that I â[support] known abusersâ65, by which they mean I referenced something from a source they deemed to come from a racist, and that I thanked someone for pointing out disruption in my plugin, when that someone was, to them, a âknown abuserâ. BS has chided people for using her name wrongly, e.g. here and here saying this is racist, but she has no problem66 boosting someone who made a joke playing on the 14 words67, a slogan adopted by white supremacists and neo-Nazis.
They have also accused me of being surrounded by racists68, for similar reasoning (people are bringing up the same kind of evidence that someone they have deemed a racist did, therefore they are racists.) Even on the face of it this is absurd, but it makes sense as a justification of their ire. Without just making things up, they wouldnât be taken seriously even at a surface level (the same thing TERFs do, when they claim they were âfired just for saying biological sex is realâ, for example.)
- I donât use Kiwifarms, have an account, get information from it, or have ever sourced it. The sources I linked to also never referenced Kiwifarms. So, it appears that this is more of a tarring tactic to imply that Iâm a serial harasser.
- I donât believe that anti-white racism is a thing, and Iâve said this on Twitter too69. None of this report is contradictory with that position.
They will often also couch their positions as just âfeminismâ, for similar reasons that TERFs couch their positions as âpro-womenâ.
These are so common, and frivolous, despite being serious accusations, that itâs They then defend BS by saying sheâs a staunch transfeminine ally7071727374757677, and remind people that sheâs Thai/queer/lesbian707172747577, because the belief they have in justifying their behavior is to make Bee the ultimate victim: a queer POC whoâs just trying to fight for trans women and lesbians, being attacked and hounded by racists, which is the only reason people oppose her, and if you do too, you must be racist, sexist, or transphobic. Their definition of an ally to trans women seems to be someone who fires laterally within the community as ârighteous angerâ, and then play the victim when they inevitably retaliate. She attracts victimized people and enables this toxic behavior. That is also why they see BS as a true / strong transfem ally, because they donât see other transfem allies going to the same lengths to âdefendâ them (by harassing others.)
Defenses of BS
Much of this is in the past, but Iâm keeping it here because BS defenders will still use these docs as a shield.
- âthe real fuel for Mixonâs blog post is the ire of a group of white women who were enragedâ13 / ârelying on the words of powerful white peopleâ35 / âthis is about silencing and isolating Bee as punishment for calling out white women on racismâ13
- Attributing malice and motive does not preclude the ability for us to see what was said.
- Iâm not going to argue this one way or the other, but given BSâ history of wielding accusations of racism as a silencing tactic, and the fact that many affected were not white, I donât give this argument much credit.
- none of this âenraged white women ireâ is ever surfaced, because their comments are extremely tepid in the face of BSâ unhinged remarks about maggots and being dismembered.
- Neither is there any evidence that this is about silencing someone. This is a post hoc justification which is clear from the focus of the reports on her abuse, not her commentary about race.
- âthe Mixon report is a Gish Gallop / Document dumpâ3513
- The irony of making this accusation at the start of a 140+ page rebuttal35 is not lost on me
- The report was sufficiently large to cover the accusations in enough detail and no more. It cannot be a Gish Gallop because that applies to the format of formal debate: not giving your opponent time to respond to half-truths; an exploitation of Brandoliniâs law. Clearly, her defenders have had sufficient time to address the document.
- âthere is plausible deniability in some of the accusations of the things sheâs doneâ13
- There is too big a laundry list of examples of her abuses and a trail of independent victims that warrant no further plausible deniability.
- âshe is not engaging in DARVOâ13
- Her behavior is almost a textbook example of it.
- Deny: she gaslights victims into thinking sheâs not doing what sheâs doing (itâs just a joke! itâs just strong language!)78
- Attack: when confronted with evidence, BS attacks that person as being âpart of an organized campaign of hatredâ against her.79
- Reverse Victim and Offender: BS reinforces that she is the true victim, and has her minions come to her defense (read: dogpile her victim.)
- Her behavior is almost a textbook example of it.
- âBee was criticized for speaking up about the attacks against herâ13
- The source for this was two randoms talking on twitter with no external traction.
- âitâs untrue that one of her targets was goaded into a suicide attemptâ3513
- The source for this is that the exchange that was pointed to as the trigger is deemed âcivil, albeit rather blunt, and certainly [not an attack].â
- The exchange shown doesnât show goading, but it is not up to a third party to invalidate what can or canât cause someoneâs suicidal ideation.
- RH herself replies in an apology âI was shocked to learn that I triggered you into a suicidal downswing. Intent doesnât matterânor does it excuseâbut Iâm genuinely sorry that I caused to thisâ
- âthe dog rape threat is bunkâ13
- The reasoning for this, given in a Tumblr blog post11, is that they donât believe her, because Bee used different handles on every platform.
- And they didnât specify an exact time, but rather ânot all that long agoâ.
- So therefore, it seems more likely that this was an imposter.
- I understand itâs hard to procure evidence that you didnât say something, but this reasoning clearly shows a bias towards believing Bee when the evidence is ambiguous.
- âMixonâs analysis of Beeâs victims is statistically invalid. Dunning-Kruger incompetence.â13
- Mixon argues that Beeâs targets are disproportionately POC, and uses an unvalidated assumption that the rates of publications of POC authors are roughly comparable between childrenâs book writers and SFF writers.
- This is a valid criticism. However, that doesnât mean itâs wrong. Notably, the American book industry is still overwhelmingly white. As of 2015, white/caucasian industry respondents represented 79%80 - notably higher than the 60% in the racial breakdown presented in the Mixon report. I donât see this as a strong argument either way, though.
- âthe abuse she has received is worse than the abuse she has givenâ (multiple places, such as âThereâs some references to Bee apparently having asked people about their ethnicity [âŚ] but nobody says anything when Victor Ocampo publicly questions Beeâs identityâ)3513
- Does not excuse her behavior, and the author mentions as such in the disclaimer at the top, too.
- Victor questions the validity of a nomination for diversity if BS canât be verified as POC. This is different to haranguing people on the basis of their supposed race.
- âyes, sheâs deleted things, but it was due to stalker-related issuesâ13
- That doesnât explain the pattern of immediately deleting the worst of her abusive posts shortly after theyâve done what they needed to.
- This explains, perhaps, shutting down entire accounts, removing personal information, and so on. But âdeleted thingsâ wasnât really the accusation. It was: âAfter an attack, she deletes her most inflammatory posts and accounts and departs, leaving her targets reeling and others who come later scratching their heads, unable to find evidence and wondering what all the fuss was about.â12
- âher behavior was something sheâs specifically apologized forâ13
- There are just as many if not more cases where she has not apologized to her victims. An apology also means less and less each time you continue to engage in that behavior.
- âthereâs no way she can make the pain she did cause go awayâ13
- This is an unfair reading of what was being said.
- The operative words used were âaddressing the damage she has done, much less undoing itâ12.
- âUndoingâ, on a fair reading, does not imply rewriting the past. It means making amends and reconciliationsâowning up to what you did and making it right.
- If you trashed someoneâs house and you were asked to âundo the damageâ, it would be understood that you would clean it up, not that you were being asked to make the house never trashed to begin with.
- âBee cannot make amends if she is silenced and ostracizedâ13
- She is actively posting on Twitter, and hasnât suffered any loss of exposure or income to the best of my knowledge.
- Someone may be ostractized, but that is no excuse for them to not attempt to make amends.
- âMyth: RH used multiple pseudonyms to hide her actionsâ35
- The author argues that, âit was actually literally impossible for anyone to know of RH, pyrofennec, acrackedmoon and Winterfox, and not know that they were the same person.â
- It is not literally impossible, because it in fact literally happened. Multiple times.
- The author argues that, âit was actually literally impossible for anyone to know of RH, pyrofennec, acrackedmoon and Winterfox, and not know that they were the same person.â
- âMyth: RH targeted PoC women, homosexuals, and disabled peopleâ35
- The author rests on the semantics of âtargetsâ and âattacksâ, suggesting that the evidence is hearsay.
- There are first-hand accounts from WoC of the abuse they suffered, you can decide for yourself.
- âMyth: RH is the leader of a cult, manipulating her followers to do her evil biddingâ35
- The author dismisses this as a product of Mixonâs imagination, because there is âno evidence that anyone ever did anything they did not wantâ, and that âIâd like to know who Mixon things BS is holding [âŚ] hostage and under her âcontrolâ.â
- She manipulates her followers with DARVO, who go to war on her behalf, believing they are âfighting the good fightâ. The patterns of abuse that stem from interacting with that clique would seem to indicate that there is a culture of dogpiling that is allowed if not endorsed. If you read through this whole report, you can add a Soupcan emoji to your tweet so I know you did. There are many high-profile twitter users with extensive friend groups who do not incite dogpiles, so itâs not fair to say that âThe âcommunityâ she created was far from a cult, and there is no indication that the friends she made are any different than anyone elseâs friends.â
- âMixonâs report was motivated by loathingâ35
- Whether or not this is true has no bearing on the evidence provided.
- âBSâs reports were not attacks, but rather just negative reviewsâ35
- Example 1. Edouard argues that this is a âthinking womanâs ânuke it from orbitââ, which is amazingly incredulous. This is a snarky and over-the-top teardown, making accusations of internalized misogyny, internalized racism, creepy romance, a fleshed out rapist character, bad writing, and dubious gender politics. It is not a considered or measured response. It is not even a review. It very explicitly calls for (metaphorically) a âbiochemical weapon to Cindy Ponâs coordinatesâ. Any well-adjusted person would consider this vociferous rebuke an attack.
- âshe hoped to enjoy [it] because she shared Ponâs gender and, to some extent, part of her racial identity. This could also explain why RH reacted with so much negativity to the racism and sexism she perceived in Ponâs books.â35
- Doesnât excuse the attack, so Iâm not sure why this is relevant.
- âWe are left to conclude that to Mixon, critiquing racism in a piece of fiction in a way that cannot be refuted, worse, that the author can appreciate the truth of the criticism, and strive to improve her work in the future in order to better represent characters of color in her works, is wrong. Frankly, that explanation is not really satisfying and I think itâs false.â
- That the author decided to see a silver lining and take feedback does not mean there wasnât an attack.
- âAre you an amoeba? [âŚ] Itâs a regurgitation done without skill, with an extra does of racismâ is what author Edouard is defending. His words are, âI file this case as not an âattackâ.â
- That the author decided to see a silver lining and take feedback does not mean there wasnât an attack.
- âThis type of biased perception of what is acceptable behaviour, i.e. that strongly worded criticism of racism and colonialism is somehow worse than the racism and colonialism expressed in the first place, is common among my peopleâ
- I donât believe there is evidence to support this claim. Firstly, âstrongly wordedâ underplays BSâs invective. Secondly, I donât think anyone had a problem with suggestions of checking for potential bigotry, but rather the shutting-down and chilling effect that BSâs words had.
- Edouard writes this off as âRH acting as an activist to improve the representation of PoC in SFFâ, conflating what is uncontroversially good (diversity) with what is being pushed back on (abusive rhetoric.)
- However, there does appear to be a line, where âexaggerating for rhetorical effect, and interpreting these statements as literal death threats is stupid and disingenuousâ is crossed for the author, and he does concede that âRH is then guilty of using hyper violent language for rhetorical effect on her personal blog and quite possibly twitter in order to illustrate to level to which she found Bacigalupiâs book offensive. [This is] objectionable conduct.â
- âHere is how I interpret things so far. RH reads a book and is offended by some of the content. She writes a review using, for her, rather mild language.â35
- BS herself admits that it is not her intention but the effect that matters, and has said it was âinexcusableâ23.
- âMixon is targeting RH.â35
- In the literal sense, yes. RH is being targeted to shine a spotlight on her abuses.
- The author uses the fact that âMixonâs essay had [âŚ] coordinated release and publicityâ, âshe published at least 2 follow-up postsâ, âdiscussed RH multiple times on twitterâ, and draws comparisons between Mixon asking for signal-boosting to that of RH âcultivating a sizeable cast of followers who respond to her calls to help launch attacksâ.
- This is not a fair comparison, as Mixon is not asking anyone to defend her or attack RH, but rather draw more attention to her expose.
- The author continues to make comparisons to liken Mixonâs actions to RHâs actions: âApparently, itâs not what RH was allegedly doing that what wrong, because Mixon and her associtates[sic] are involved in the exact same behaviours. Itâs who she was.â
- This serves no purpose but to suggest that the two are equally bad. Even if this is the case, that would still mean that RHâs behavior is bad.
- âBS is reformed.â35 â[itâs] disingenuous to refer to something she has repeatedly apologized for because it shows that you arenât really after accountability but rather that you want her to stop supporting trans women who talk about transmisogynyâ81
- The following years, including to this very day, show otherwise.
For the reasons above, 35 appears to give way more benefit of the doubt than what I would consider reasonable for the average person.
13 relies a lot on an appeal to incredulity, rather than evidence / reductio ad absurdum, i.e. âThis is so ridiculous, it canât be true.â
- âfor the above to have any meaning at all, it requires attributing enormous power to a single reviewer, allowing them to exert far-reaching influence over huge swathes of the publishing industry.â
- âto believe that it is true would require that Bee have some sort of superhuman understanding of psyychology and specific personâs triggers.â
- âRead those exchanges. If you can figure out how they could have possibly been âgoadingâ[sic] into a suicide attempt, Iâd love to hear it.â
Conclusion
The harassment I received based on a red mark in Soupcan is a proxy war against who they consider the enemy, including âbirthday boysâ. It had very little to do with the Soupcan application itself, and I know this because many of the users seemingly didnât even know how Soupcan worked or had ever used it before, before forming a biased opinion of what it does/what it means/how it works, and then attacking me for it.
Benjanunâs actions in supporting and endorsing comments about trans men using terms like âzippertitsâ and âcuntboysâ is sufficient to label these actions transphobic. In addition to this, promulgating a pejorative dog whistle for trans men that paints that demographic as intrinsically worthy of derision is also transphobic bigotry. It is a dog whistle because it is argued that there is plausible deniability in that it is âjust a jokeâ, despite what the evidence and usages of the term reveals. For these reasons, the reports on Benjanun in Soupcan will remain, but will be marked as âControversialâ, because a large enough community of trans people do feel supported by her.
Nobody, including BS, deserves hatred, abuse, or bigotry. I am firmly against that. However, that does not excuse, explain, justify BSâs actions or make them irrelevant.
As tempting as it is to argue, the most powerful thing to do is block, ignore, and pass this on. Arguing with them is only going to fuel themâthey will wait until you slip up and make a mountain out of a molehill. Or just plainly take something out of context that they can frame in a certain way and harass you as their target of the day. Pretty standard Internet advice: donât feed the trolls.
See:
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Archived version of âBeing an itemised list of disagreements: regarding the author Benjanun Sriduangkaew AKA requires hateâ ↩ ↩2 ↩3
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Winterfox/RequiresHate/Benjanun Sriduangkaew roundup post (Archived)Â ↩Â ↩2Â ↩3Â ↩4Â ↩5Â ↩6Â ↩7Â ↩8Â ↩9Â ↩10
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Archived version of âSerenity Dee: SFF is still maladjustedâ ↩ ↩2 ↩3 ↩4 ↩5
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Archived version of âA Report on Damage Done by One Individual Under Several Namesâ ↩ ↩2 ↩3 ↩4 ↩5 ↩6 ↩7
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Archived version of âThe Tale of Benjanun Sriduangkaew, Part II: Lies, Damn Lies, And Failing at Statisticsâ ↩ ↩2 ↩3 ↩4 ↩5 ↩6 ↩7 ↩8 ↩9 ↩10 ↩11 ↩12 ↩13 ↩14 ↩15 ↩16
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Archived version of âRequires Hate revealed: Benjanun Sriduangkaewâs true identity and her extremely privileged extended familyâ ↩ ↩2 ↩3
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Archived version of âThe stalker known as Creepalicious/Roguey, Juliet E. McKenna, and narrativesâ ↩
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Your one-stop shopping for trolling and bullying disguse as social justice! ↩
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Daily dot: Acclaimed sci-fi writer exposed as notorious Internet troll (Archived)Â ↩
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Archived version of âThe things that we do: on mistakes, on apologiesâ ↩
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Winterfraud (Archived)Â ↩Â ↩2
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Archived version of âRequires Hate, aka Benjanun Sriduankaew, is a multiple, serial & proven bully, liar & manipulatorâ ↩
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Toward Zero (Archived)Â ↩
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Archived version of âSome thoughts on the politics of trollingâ ↩
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Screenshot of tweets from @Katrafiy and @lisaquestions about the origin of âbirthday boy brigadeâ ↩
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Archived version of âA More Specific Grievanceâ ↩ ↩2 ↩3 ↩4 ↩5 ↩6 ↩7 ↩8 ↩9 ↩10 ↩11 ↩12 ↩13 ↩14 ↩15 ↩16
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Tweet thread, @Sinister_Sophia, @SamiDeWinter (Screenshot)Â ↩